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Post time 2017-10-9 23:01:00 |Show all posts
Edited by mordecaii at 2017-10-10 10:05

list of my hesitation switching MO ==> MN

1. do you think MN will out manuvered FS in team battle or 1 on 1 situation ??

2. lack of "something new" from switching MO into MN
same attack buff, tiny +5% air ring lol .
except the obvious improvement i lose :
- cleanse support line debuff ( this thing is actually good in certain condition of battle )
- super tanky vanguard while dying ( MN doesnt have that thing , make me question their strength in pve )
- better cc %, why ? because some people using double cc reduce which mean 60% cc chance is like 0%
MO has 80% cc = 20% left
MN has 70% cc = 10% left

3. absurd un-buffed version
When attacked, 50% chance to clear all debuffs on self and enter super flash status for 1 round
when the debuff stay and he enter super flash status, he basicly petrify himself unless 7th hokage attack and clear debuff OR maybe even put more debuff -_-
you can wait untill rally to buy him or use him <--- i know that, just pointed out that their un-buffed version is odd

4. self super flash bugged ( not 100% ) or maybe their self super flash isnt 100% chance ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee9WcOjQk3w
at min 3:07

5. still vulnerable to reflect

anyone has thoughts ?
remember this is just a friendly discussion guys, everyone entitled to their opinion ..
i'm just a pleb want to hear some opinion here ..

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Post time 2017-10-9 23:29:28 |Show all posts
I think that they are a no go.  They just seem to have a lot of flaws.  They dont get stronger as they die, and the superflash is bugged.  Since HakuZabuza will be a counter, that undermines them as well.

Just give Final Sasuke Superflash set

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Post time 2017-10-9 23:41:48 |Show all posts
Edited by vmrlethal at 2017-10-9 23:56

Personally, I feel FS is better than MN PvP wise and MO is better than MN PvE wise (talent and skill wise, not stats). MN is somewhere in between MO and FS in terms of utility in PvE and PvP.

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Post time 2017-10-10 00:00:30 |Show all posts
1. do you think MN will out manuvered FS in team battle or 1 on 1 situation ??
No
i)  Against FS he wont win one on one.
ii)  FS will skill every 3 rounds if not cced  ( but it heals to full if ever skill + reflect )
iii) MN will skill every 2 rounds

2. lack of "something new" from switching MO into MN
Self cleanse is quite good.

3. absurd un-buffed version
We may get almost fully buffed ninja apart from some difference. Like it was with tenten...except for heal everything was there right on release

4. self super flash bugged ( not 100% ) or maybe their self super flash isnt 100% chance ??
This is the main point to be concerned about . Superflash isnt 100% definitely a no go

5. still vulnerable to reflect
Yes it is. But which ninja isnt apart from 7th hokage.
everyone is affected by that so its normal
Solution: Get FS yourself or wait for next release with reflect effect

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Post time 2017-10-10 00:01:37 |Show all posts
genjutsumaster19 replied at 2017-10-10 10:29
I think that they are a no go.  They just seem to have a lot of flaws.  They dont get stronger as th ...

yea im in the position of getting FS or MN ..
FS will hardly appear in PM when MN out, so ive to make decision soon ..

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Post time 2017-10-10 02:07:36 |Show all posts
Enigmatic_Mayhem replied at 2017-10-10 11:00
1. do you think MN will out manuvered FS in team battle or 1 on 1 situation ??
No
i)  Against FS he  ...

thank you for your insight ..
i'm in the middle of rebuilding my team now and im not kind of guy who use 2-3 or 3-2 ..

i'm leaning toward 70:30 for the favour of FS now ..

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Post time 2017-10-10 02:19:38 |Show all posts
Edited by Enigmatic_Mayhem at 2017-10-10 02:22
mordecaii replied at 2017-10-10 02:07
thank you for your insight ..
i'm in the middle of rebuilding my team now and im not kind of guy wh ...

haha..i was stating it to make myself feel better and trying to bring myself to like MN..when they made the ninja i like almost look bad.

i was quite certain to get MN
But as it seems now,
i) he didnt get any cc immunity particularly uncleansable ones (tenten got both uncleansable immunity so in buff or 2nd buff or whatever i was expecting something but it didnt happen)

ii) superflash is actually broken (not working )

iii) And to add there is bad counter of it right next , so it will be short lived ninja.

FS is currently superior to MN in PVP..And being a self cleansing cleanser is the best trait of FS beside reflect
and for PVE you already have MO.


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Post time 2017-10-10 05:28:20 |Show all posts
1. do you think MN will out manuvered FS in team battle or 1 on 1 situation ??
FS will win. Both will be full life, but FS have hp passive.

2. lack of "something new" from switching MO into MN
MO is playing more alone and need a cleanser to be strong. MN will play in team : generator fury, +5% abs (compare to MO), +20% def, auto cleanse all (all which possible)

3. absurd un-buffed version
OP shit ^^

4. self super flash bugged ( not 100% ) or maybe their self super flash isnt 100% chance ??
Just hope to not have this bug several months....

5. still vulnerable to reflect
Yes indeed. But only FS and set reflect. FS is not a problem for me. FS + set, hum, i prefer not fight this, but all FS i fight are really tanky, so the reflect is low.




Sorry for my bad english

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Post time 2017-10-10 05:50:25 |Show all posts
Forthtilliath replied at 2017-10-10 16:28
1. do you think MN will out manuvered FS in team battle or 1 on 1 situation ??
FS will win. Both wil ...

so you leaning towards MN ?
i see a some good considerable points ..

i can always switch back to MO when pve call though ..
ive a cleanser so hmm ..

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Post time 2017-10-10 05:53:13 |Show all posts
On my low account, i'll stay with MO to buy some gears etc. More important right now. On my high account, probably replace STL by him. He will be rally strong. HZ is the most counter but not sûre he will attack.

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